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Spanish Dude 15 februari 2012 19:26

Hasci ... en de Reclame Code Commissie
 
In the last 6 months, dr. Gho has been using a false advertising on the front page of his website. Info here:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/fo...st_answer.html

So, 2 days ago, I wrote the dutch Reclame Code Commisie to bring this false advertisement to their attention.

Main RCC address:
info AT reclamecode DOT nl


Joan Lorang (speaks english):
Joan.Lorang AT reclamecode DOT nl


sadly, it seems that they are more interested on obtaining my personal information and giving it to Gho, rather than fighting fraud.
Details follow...

Spanish Dude 15 februari 2012 19:31

Email exchange
 
My first email:

>>>>
Subject: False advertising by Dr. Gho
<<<<

>>>>>

Hello:
I want to denounce a blatant false advertising by a doctor in the Netherlands.
His name is Dr. Gho.
His website:
www.hasci.com

This doctor does hair transplants.

The falsehood has stayed for more than 6 months online, in the front page of his website.
I have explained everything in this public forum:

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/fo...st_answer.html

I hope you take actions against this charlatan.

regards-Spanish Dude

<<<<<<<




Joan Lorang wrote:
>>>
Dear Sir, Madam,

Please use our complaintform for filing a complaint
https://www.reclamecode.nl/consument...sp?paginaid=73

<<<



And my reply was:

>>>>
Hello:

Thanks for your reply.
Its imperative that I remain anonymous.
The complaint form is asking for my personal data, and I won't reveal this.
Will this be a problem?

The false advertisement by dr. Gho is cristal clear.

regards--"Spanish Dude"
<<<<



and Joan Lorang replied:
>>>>
Dear Sir, Madam,

It is not possible to remain anonymous.

When we handle a complaint we have to send all the information of the complainant to the advertiser.

<<<<


and my reply was this one:

>>>>
Hello:
Thanks for your reply.

I am sorry, but I find it very illogical that you have to inform dr. Gho about my personal data.

Imagine that I go to the police, and tell them about a crime that its being commited, do you imagine the police
giving my personal data to the criminal?

I have described the false advertising in great detail here:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/fo...st_answer.html


This false advertisement has been online for more than 6 months.
In that link, you have sufficient information to decide for yourself if this is a case of false advertising or not.
Then, why contacting dr. Gho at all? You don't need to do that.

In fact, your protocol will discourage people from reporting false advertising.
Do you want to discourage people from reporting fraüd?
Do you want to protect fraüdsters?

A fraüd is a fraüd, regardless of who is complaining.
I hope you understand.


best regards--Spanish Dude

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Limbo 15 februari 2012 19:34

Are you happy now?:eek:

Spanish Dude 15 februari 2012 19:39

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Limbo (Bericht 301688)
Are you happy now?:eek:

As you may understand, I am very dissatisfied. They are not fighting fraud.

Are you happy?

Limbo 15 februari 2012 20:25

Childish...

Spanish Dude 15 februari 2012 21:50

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Limbo (Bericht 301701)
Childish...

hummm, so,... reporting advertising fraud is childish?
Could you tell me what is your idea of maturity?
ah, I know, your idea of maturity is this:
"I know that it is a fraud, but I don't care. I don't care if others are fooled, because I am not fooled. I don't care if others fall, because I am safe."

This is not maturity, Limbo, this is putrefaction.

AnthonieH 15 februari 2012 22:27

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Spanish Dude (Bericht 301693)
As you may understand, I am very dissatisfied. They are not fighting fraud.

Are you happy?

I think they don't act on anonymous complaints to avoid the posibility of witch hunts.

If your complaint is serious, why remain anonymous?

AnthonieH 15 februari 2012 23:05

Maar ik vind de advertentie dus ook misleidend en ik heb zelf een klacht ingediend. Verder afhandeling gebeurt per post. Ik laat wel weten hoe het loopt.

Spanish Dude 16 februari 2012 00:14

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door AnthonieH (Bericht 301711)
I think they don't act on anonymous complaints to avoid the posibility of witch hunts.

If your complaint is serious, why remain anonymous?

Hello AnthonieH:

Reasons to stay anonymous:

1. I was death threatened by Dr. Bazan in the past in Hairsite.
2. I have been death-threatened by several forum members in Hairsite, for example, the now-banned Stevie.Dee.
3. Dr. Gho in the past exposed in Hairsite the real name of patient "Syrup" who complained about a failed transplant.

The hairloss forum world is a rude world, believe me, I have a lot of experience. It is not advised to go open and happily reveal your identity.

I could understand that the Reclame Code Commisie asked for your identity, but I cannot understand why they give this information to dr. Gho.


Okay, Anthonie, I see that you are very brave and decided to go ahead with the formulaire, good luck!

Falcone 16 februari 2012 11:57

Citaat:

Maar ik vind de advertentie dus ook misleidend en ik heb zelf een klacht ingediend. Verder afhandeling gebeurt per post. Ik laat wel weten hoe het loopt.
Toch iemand die zijn nek uitsteekt....

bass885 16 februari 2012 12:34

Kan me niet aan de indruk onttrekken dat deze gasten niet sporen.

dZinee 16 februari 2012 13:34

appreciate the fact that you are sticking your neck out to some good for the hairloss world. I do not see why people would blame or harras you for that.

slotzang 16 februari 2012 17:01

He AnthonieH, ik ben benieuwd naar de uitkomst. Keep us posted!

Needmorehair 16 februari 2012 17:03

Laat die gasten lekker PB'en met elkaar...
Anthonie: lijkt mij goed dat je melding hebt gemaakt...

ps. Staat er bij jullie ook ".nl" in de adresbalk?

AnthonieH 16 februari 2012 18:27

Citaat:

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Needmorehair (Bericht 301759)
Laat die gasten lekker PB'en met elkaar...
Anthonie: lijkt mij goed dat je melding hebt gemaakt...

ps. Staat er bij jullie ook ".nl" in de adresbalk?

Misschien tegen beter weten in laat ik de buitenlandse gasten toe op Haarweb. Ik hoop nog altijd op nieuwe inzichten uit het verre buitenland en ik neem wat ruis voor lief.

Maar ik zal het ergste gekissebis naar de speciale engelstalige discussie over Gho verplaatsen. Met het hele onderwerp heeft het toch niet veel meer van doen.


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