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pindakaas 20 november 2003 18:09

6-BAP (Innovate)
 
Thursday November 20, 2003 4:45 AM (NEW!)


At this day : shed seems to slow down a litte bit.
I lokked at my crown which was terribly thining 2 months ago ans curiously all seems good. A closer look by my wife has confirmed that a lot, really a lot of black terminals hairs are regrowing in that place. As my hairs are very short and cut every week, for her it is really noticeable that there is a great improvement in that place.
A lot of terminal hairs are growing everywhere on my scalp exept at the right temple (after closer inspection left temple seems to regrow hairs but thin hairs for the moment not as black as the others).
Right temple is totally destroyed (sure it is innovate which is responsible of that), BUT after closer inspection news hairs very very short are coming out but it is really not enogh to replace all i've lost, hope this will be better in the next month.
The most important thing for me almost 10 hairs black and healthy are growing in my 18's hairline and those hairs where not here 2 years ago.
Something i've noticed in the first two weeks using innovate is that a lot of white and unpigmented hairs were growing out but these hairs were in catagen phase because they shed almost immediately with an inflated bulb, so it could be the sign that innovate make my starting a new cycle of growth.
So for the moment i should say i'm really optimistic but only time will tell in one month or two.
The real problem and I apologise for this is that I don't know if the regrowth is due to the oz's brew or innovate himself.
For the shed it is clearly innovate lol
I will post in the 2 month's mark to update my progress good or bad.
For the moment I stay optimistic.
I've also noticed bumps on my right temple and hairline as posters on hairsite said (i'm frenchguy from hairsite), I only hope it is sign of regrowth and not some kind of bad reaction.
For the moment my hairs have never seems to be fuller and darker than it was 1 year ago EXCEPT at the temple (probably it will take more time to kickstart main regrowth in these area)
Keep you updated.
Thanks for all and thanks farrel for your amazing site.


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NW 1,5~2

27 yrs old. Smoker

Internal : * Fin 2,5 * ult.hair plus by nature

Topicals :* lion innovate(6-bap) * t-flavanone * oz-brew with minox and glucosamine sulfate

Shampoo: *Neutrogena t-gel

Uitgeblust 21 november 2003 23:03

Ik denk zelf dat hij niet zo optimistisch moet zijn. Na enkele weken het gebruik van minoxidil heb ik zelfs korte dunne haartjes die vóór mijn "best" mogelijke haargrens groeien (dus bovenkant voorhoofd). Op een plek waar ik nóóit haar heb gehad! Ik vind het ook een beetje raar, dus ik ga niet lopen pretenderen dat minoxidil zo goed werkt. Jammer dat ik het de laatste tijd alleen 's avonds kan gebruiken (ivm studie, dames etc. en ik wil er toch wel iedere dag gewoon op me best uitzien ;) ) ... maar dan zie je dat het minder goed werkt. Dus mijn advies ... als je gewoon "schijt" aan de wereld heb, dan moet je je haar millimeteren (heb je ook geen last van een bad-hair day), tweemaal daags minoxidil, 's ochtends na het ontbijt propecia en na het avondeten een saw palmetto. Verder zoveel mogelijk het masturberen nalaten. Als je dan niet binnen drie maanden succes (her en der kleine haartjes) heb, dan eet ik mijn schoen op.

Jaapie 21 november 2003 23:12

Citaat:

Originally posted by Uitgeblust
Verder zoveel mogelijk het masturberen nalaten. Als je dan niet binnen drie maanden succes (her en der kleine haartjes) heb, dan eet ik mijn schoen op.
whaahha geweldig

Biljartbal 22 november 2003 13:45

Mastubreren ?

Daarom ben ik kaal aan het worden:D

geintje:D

Biljartbal 22 november 2003 13:46

Uitgeblust waarom gebruik je de 5% niet van cheapregaine. Dat kan je het een keer per dag toepassen i.p.v. 2 keer de 2%.

Johnny 22 november 2003 20:40

Ik ben eigenlijk ook wel erg benieuwd naar de 6-bapbevindingen van het moment, zijn er ook mensen van dit forum die al ervaringen hebben?

Robert18 22 november 2003 20:48

Ik meen dat Vindiesel op dit forum onlangs is begonnen met 6BAP van Innovate.

Retteketet 22 november 2003 23:35

Als mastruberen niet goed is voor kaalheid, was ik nu allang al Kees jansma de 2de

pindakaas 22 november 2003 23:58

Anders ik wel, welliswaar geen masturberen, maar `t komt op hetzelfde neer :D

Maar euh... voordat dit weer een sexueel getinte thread word...;)

pindakaas 23 november 2003 00:11

Wed Oct-22-03 11:31 AM
Member since Dec 25th 2002
29 posts

#14316, "6-bap/folligen frontal and temple anecdotal results"


Greetings all. I haven't posted recently, but I wanted to say that I have had some positive results in the last 6 weeks or so. This is purely anecdotal, I didn't have somebody count hairs with a microscope over a square centimeter of my scalp or anything. And most importantly, I'm only one person with a specific regimen. Okay, that being said, my old regimen which worked well for a few years and then dramatically failed was propecia once daily, t-gel daily, and 5% minoxidil morning and 5%minoxidil + .025% retinoic acid at night. None of this ever had an effect on my temporal region.
About 6 weeks ago, I used a container of Neutrogena Visibly Firm as a hydrophilic base (I figured the additional copper peptides couldn't hurt) and added enough 6-bap to comprose about 1% by weight. I have been applying that once daily and spraying folligen once daily. For the first time in about ten years I can see an outline of my old temple hairline. The hairs are dark vellus, I'm hoping given more time they will become terminal. I still take propecia.
This is obviously not a scientific study, but I'm happy so far. I can't tell if my crown area is improving yet, but I'll let you know.

By the way, to those of you using ethyl alcohol for 6-bap. How much have you been able to dissolve in it? The material sheet I have only states "slightly soluble in water", and says nothing about alcohol.

Robert18 23 november 2003 00:45

Waarom gebruikt nou nooit iemand gewoon ÉÉN produkt...

Maar ja, lijkt erop dat 6BAP een groot verschil maakt. Klinkt allemaal zo goed.

Ik ga gewoon bijna zeggen dat 6BAP dé echte oplossing is voor ons probleem.

Raymond79 23 november 2003 16:13

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Sunday November 23, 2003 4:23 AM (NEW!)


Well its been 5 weeks since i started and here is what i have noticed so far.

1-2 weeks I had a lot of hair loss where I was aplying it. At same time lotsof white hairs grew very long along hair line and temples, my right temple which was my better of the 2 temples looked like it had been attacked with a pick axe. I was quite amazed by it.

week 3- I noticed a lot of little bumpes appear on my slick temple area, these bumps outlined where my hair line was a few years back.

week 4- hair feels soft and i would say fuller. The long white hairs dropped out and the bumps have gone now. No regrowth as far as I can tell. Hair does though(not all but id say 60%) stand up better.

week5- a couple of hairs have poped through that I have just noticed, there are not many and are not on the slick temple. However, these few hairs are perfect..they are dark, strong, stand up and are how i rememebr my hair to be in that area. On close inspection they stand out like sore thumbs cuz there so healthy looking. These few hairs are half the length of my other hair. there abt 8mm long approx..my hair grows fast so as a guess id say they must have started growing in around week 3 of using Innovate. What gives me hope is these hairs have grown in suffering areas(although not worst area which is my temple) and if they can do it maybe the rest can to.

My regime at moment is:

Innovate morning and night(1ml applied to hair line/temples)
Laser comb MON,WENS,FRI
Revogien shampoo MON,WENS,FRI
Nizoral shampoo once a week.
Skin/hair multivitam called perfectil


Ik zelf wacht al meer dan 5 weken op m'n 6-bap van Lion Corp, dus ik zou zeggen bestel je 6-bap [innovate] maar lekker bij Lion corp.

pindakaas 23 november 2003 22:23

Wie kan deze site vertalen???
Staat recente info in, wat betreft innovate van Lion.
M`n comp. herkent alleen de taal niet.

http://www.blorit.co.il/template.php...hatsuryoku.php

ugh 24 november 2003 05:00

Citaat:

Originally posted by Robert18
Waarom gebruikt nou nooit iemand gewoon ÉÉN produkt...

Maar ja, lijkt erop dat 6BAP een groot verschil maakt. Klinkt allemaal zo goed.

Ik ga gewoon bijna zeggen dat 6BAP dé echte oplossing is voor ons probleem.

De bijwerkingen die sommigen mogelijk door 6Bap krijgen zijn alleen helaas niet prettig.

pindakaas 25 november 2003 18:02

"Innovate 1 month report...."


Hey guys,

Well it's been about 1 month that ive been using Innovate...i apply once a day..i don't really spend too much time messaging the hair but just appply it all over nice and evenly...well the one thing i have noticed is a lot of shedding...at least i know i don't need to message since i seem to be reacting to Innovate...i'm not sure how you all are doing so im' excited to hear...I am really just toughing it out because i have a good feeling about all this...i just hope the shedding stops like some of you so far...

Any experiences u care to share? Please mention how often you apply for all of us to compare.


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