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Oud 30 september 2003, 19:10   #1
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Thumbs up GOED NIEUWS!!!! 6-bap is verkrijgbaar!!!!!!!

Zou beter werken dan Minoxidil


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Oud 30 september 2003, 19:36   #2
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Goed nieuws! Ben er alleen wat sceptisch over... Mooie diagrammen en tabellen allemaal...maar euh.....foto`s van patiënten? Ik neem aan dat dit eerst onder zware omstandigheden getest is. Hoeveel beter is het dan minoxidil, praat je met dit middel ook over procenten?
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Oud 30 september 2003, 21:43   #3
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Lijkt inderdaad goed nieuws, maar zonder enige bewijzen.
Geen foto's, geen testresultaten, wel een beetje raar.
Zolang het nog niet te koop is bij Tell Sell zullen we het eerst maar het voordeel van de twijfel geven.
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Oud 1 oktober 2003, 07:40   #4
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Wat ik het belangrijkst vind: Is de hoofdwerking het tegengaan van haaruitval, en wat zijn de bijwerkingen?
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Oud 1 oktober 2003, 19:46   #5
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6-Bap Nu Verkrijgbaar!!

Het staat nu als produkt op hun site... Let the games begin..!

http://www.lion.co.jp/en/products/html/pro_b005.htm
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Oud 1 oktober 2003, 19:52   #6
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Post nog meer nieuws...

6-BAP 2.0 % will be shipped out as a lotion starting today.We have finally found a way to produce a stable lotion which penetrates easily and allows spot treatment without run off.The new product will be more expensive but existing orders will be honored with the current price.Also available starting today is a nearly glycol-free 5 % Minoxidil lotion which can be mixed with the the 6-BAP 2.0 if desired.6-BAP 0.5 % stays unchanged as an alcoholic solution.
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6-Bap wordt dus ook verkrijgbaar bij http://www.lipoxidil.com

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Oud 1 oktober 2003, 20:21   #7
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Ja en hopelijk ook bij mij
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Oud 2 oktober 2003, 14:57   #8
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Helpt dit product ook bij frontale kaalheid, of net zoals minoxidil met name bij de kruin?
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Het werkt op de kruin, maar JUIST ook op de inhammen.... en dat maakt dit produkt ook zo aantrekkelijk.
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Oud 2 oktober 2003, 17:16   #10
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Nog meer nieuwtjes omtrent 6-Bap....

What concentration should I make?
The part of the 6-BA patent that uses human trialists uses a 0.5% solution. Which is also the maximum solution you can make in pure ethanol.

Why all the excitement now?
Three completely independent groups(and probably more) all implicating BMPs in hair growth within the last few months.

The 6-BA patent is old. Why is it newsworthy only now?
The patent didnt implicate BMPs. Lion Corp/Tokushima University only recently discovered 6-ba stimulated BMPs.

Lion First in Successful Genetic Analysis of Male Pattern Baldness
Hair growth is an ongoing theme of research conducted in the field of hair science at Lion Corporation's Biological Science Research Center. In joint research with the Tokushima University School of Medicine's Department of Dermatology, Lion is proud to announce that it has made a milestone discovery in the development of a new approach to combating hair loss. By employing a technique for in-depth gene expression analysis, the Lion research team discovered anomalies in the expression of genes found in the skin of patients suffering from androgenic alopecia (hair loss commonly referred to as male pattern baldness) when compared to the skin of non-alopecia subjects. Lion's team is the first ever to make this remarkable discovery. The Company plans to announce its findings at the 26th Annual Meeting of the Japan Society for Biomedical Gerontology scheduled from June 18 to June 20, 2003.

1. Factors Behind the Research
In 2002, it was estimated that between 5 to 10 million people in Japan suffer from androgenic alopecia. Yet despite the vast number of people who have the disorder, the exact mechanism behind it remained a mystery. Several operative mechanisms (including energy metabolism improvement, nutritional supplements, blood flow promoters, etc.) became the focal point of efforts to develop a variety of hair-nourishment treatments to alleviate the symptoms of androgenic alopecia. Lion had already begun to turn its attention towards energy metabolism improvement, and identified glyceryl pentadecanoate (or PDG) as a relatively effective treatment for the disorder.

The process of hair growth is generally thought of as a repetitive cycle of inactivity, growth, and loss (see diagram 1) controlled by dermal papilla cells (DPCs) found at the root of a strand of hair. Since male pattern baldness is normally attributed to genetic factors, reason had it that genetic changes would also be evident in the DPCs regulating the hair growth cycle. Until that point, however, little detailed research had been conducted into the gene expression patterns associated with androgenic alopecia. It was against this backdrop that Lion set out to discern through intensive analysis the specific differences in genetic expression between dermal tissue affected by alopecia and non-alopecia skin to gain a clearer understanding of the exact nature of this disorder.

The result was that Lion become the first in the world to discover the major role played by both an increase in hair depilation signals, long identified as an important mechanism in the onset of pattern baldness, and a decline in hair growth promoting signals, vital to the growth stage of the hair growth cycle, in the onset of androgenic alopecia. By spotlighting the importance of enhancing the function of hair growth promoting signals in the prevention of hair loss, this discovery has effectively ushered in a new theoretical approach in the development of novel hair-nourishment treatments.

2. Explanation of the new hair growth mechanism
1)First in the world to conduct successful genetic expression analysis of androgenic alopecia
Lion cultivated dermal papilla cells from skin affected by alopecia and non-alopecia skin. Techniques for genetic expression analysis (DNA array analysis) were then applied to messenger RNA (mRNA) extracted from these cells, after which it was verified that a difference of around 10% in terms of gene expression existed between the two cell types. One of the differences recognized was alterations in the expression of proteins necessary for the basic cycle of cell division and growth, suggesting that DPC activity is somehow being suppressed during the onset of pattern baldness. Researchers also noticed a lower incidence of expression for other genes associated with the promotion of cell growth.

2)The discovery of hair growth promoting signals (BMP, ephrin)
The previous analysis showed a particularly dramatic decline in the genetic expression of bone morphogenetic protein (BMP) and ephrin, a gene that stimulates the growth of new blood vessels (see diagram 2). Once the precise effects of BMP and ephrin on hair follicles were identified, recognition of the essential role of each in promoting the growth of hair cells soon followed (see graph 1). Through this process, BMP and ephrin were recognized as important hair growth promoting signals in addressing androgenic alopecia.

3. Novel approach to the development of innovative hair-nourishment treatments
The aforementioned research and analyses suggested that lower levels of BMP and ephrin expression, common in androgenic alopecia, interrupt normal hair growth. These findings led to the hypothesis that reversing this decline in expression might allow the hair growth cycle to return to normal, which would naturally promote hair growth. Returning a state of hair loss to one of normal hair growth would thus involve 1) increasing the presence of hair growth promoting signals found in DPCs by a wide margin, and 2) blocking hair depilation signals. The search for substances that can simultaneously perform both functions yielded two promising candidates: a compound from the amine-class of nucleic acids that stimulates growth in plants, and 6-benzyl aminopurine*, a substance already noted for its beneficial effect on hair growth.

*Although 6-benzyl aminopurine has been approved for use in humans, the exact mechanism behind its efficacy remains unclear.

1) Recognizing the ability of 6-benzyl aminopurine to rapidly increase hair growth promoting signals
DNA array analysis has revealed over 51 recognizable genetic changes that occur in experiments in which 6-benzyl aminopurine is added to cell cultures with intact DPCs. Of these changes, an increase in the level of expression of BMP and ephrin has been determined as the crucial factor in achieving hair growth (see diagram 3). In other words, 6-benzyl aminopurine was seen to encourage activity during the growth stage of the hair growth cycle, and to effectively boost the level of hair growth promoting signals present during the growth cycle.

2) The ability of 6-benzyl aminopurine to suppress hair depilation signals
When 6-benzyl aminopurine is introduced into human hair follicle keratinocyte cultures engineered to simulate conditions during hair loss, the chemical effectively suppresses hair depilation signals (see graph 2). This evidence suggests that 6-benzyl aminopurine discourages the loss of hair follicles, helping to return the stunted hair growth cycle to its rightful state.

This research makes it clear that the development of new treatments for hair loss must include two elements. The first was already known: using the hair depilation signal to take the hair growth cycle beyond the hair loss stage. The second element, which has been identified for the first time through Lion's groundbreaking research, is the need to prevent a decline in the level of growth promoting signals, which are needed to advance to the growth stage, thus ensuring that the hair growth cycle functions smoothly.

Moreover, the dual effect evidenced by 6-benzyl aminopurine as a mechanism for raising the level of hair growth promoting signals in the hair growth cycle and suppressing hair depilation signals, suggests a possible new approach to the discovery of novel treatments for combating hair loss (see diagram 4). Looking ahead, Lion intends to continue its cutting edge research in this field, with the aim of applying the new technologies in the development of innovative hair-nourishment treatments.

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Oud 2 oktober 2003, 18:10   #11
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Ik geloof het pas als iemand van dit forum er frontale haargroei van krijgt! Het klinkt allemaal goed maar ben er vorig jaar ook al ingetrapt voor 350 euro fns te proberen. Dit hielp dus niks
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Oud 2 oktober 2003, 19:21   #12
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Dit lijkt erg veel op dat FNS verhaal, iedereen moest het hebben.Achteraf bleek het niet veel te doen voor je haar (heb het zelf gebruikt). Maar ik hoop dat 6-bap echt wat zal doen voor onze haren (afwachten maar).
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Oud 2 oktober 2003, 20:55   #13
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ik zou er ook maar mee oppassen,

zowieso vind ik minoxidil niet denderend, iemand die een combinatie van finasteride en minoxidil gebruikt, zal wel resultaat boeken maar dat komt door de finasteride.

Volgens mij zal OSH101 en waarschijnlijk RU58841 meer doen in de toekomst.

Maar ja, ik zou zeggen koop een kilo en probeer het eens. Je weet nooit !!
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Oud 3 oktober 2003, 12:14   #14
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De produktnaam van Lion Corp is Mouhatsuryoku, en je kan het binnenkort bestellen bij kurogrow.com. Op de site van lipoxidil heb ik het niet zien staan, maar ik heb wel gelezen dat mensen via lipoxidil bestellen.
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Oud 7 oktober 2003, 10:39   #15
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Zijn er nog meer producten die 6-BAP bevatten als hoofdbestandsdeel? Zoals Mouhatsuryoku innovate van lion.
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