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Oud 11 augustus 2002, 19:04   #1
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een beetje informatie

Een tijdje geleden heb ik op dit forum om advies gevraagd welke producten ik zoal kon gebruiken voor mijn terugwijkende haarlijn.
Ondertussen heb ik veel gelezen over haaruitval en de producten die er zijn om dit tegen te gaan op verschillende websites en ben ik begonnnen met de volgende behandeling: Nizoral 2% shampoo, Dr. Proctor's regrowth shampoo , 5% Xandrox (5% Minoxidil, 5% Azelaic Acid).
Sites waar je veel informatie kan vinden zijn www.regrowth.com, www.hairlosstalk.com, www.hairlosshelp.com . Als je al de informatie daar leest krijg je een goed beeld van hoe je haaruitval moet tegengaan en leer je ook dat de mate van je haaruitval genetisch voorbestemd is en niks te maken heeft met sex of bewegen of van die andere onnozele beweringen. Op www.hairlosshelp.com is er een "Ask the expert section" waar o.a. Dr. Proctor (www.drproctor.com) en Dr. Lee (www.minoxidil.com), toch wel twee autoriteiten op het gebied van haaruitval en de behandeling ervan vragen beantwoorden, als je daar een "search" doet in de reeds gestelde vragen kan je ook veel bijleren.
Om je haarverlies tegen te gaan heb je een groeistimulator nodig, de beste is Minoxidil, een andere groeistimulator is Nano, een soort natuurlijke Minoxidil ( nicotinic acid N-Oxide) en SODases (superoxide dismutases).
Er zitten SODases in de producten van Dr. Proctor en Folligen en Tricomin bevatten copper peptides.

"Oral minoxidil, a medication that originally was used to treat high blood pressure , has been found to increase hair growth. This lead to the development of topical (solution applied to the skin) minoxidil. Topical minoxidil (Rogaine) has been shown to stimulate hair growth."


"Superoxide dismutase. This is an enzyme produced by the body to neutralize the superoxide radical. Superoxide is a messenger of inflammation and is involved in the body's autoimmune response. It exists in a yin yang relationship with nitric oxide. Nitric oxide is a vasodilator that appears to be important for hair growth, while superoxide is a vasoconstrictor that may be part of the signaling mechanism that tells hair to stop growing. Superoxide can also interact with nitric oxide to form a highly destructive free radical called peroxynitrite, which causes protein and lipid oxidation. A few hair products contain copper peptides, which are SOD mimetics; i.e., mimic the effects of the body's SOD enzyme. SOD-containing products have been noted a number of times by researchers to stimulate hair growth and block hair loss in mice. Recent study data on Tricomin, a copper peptide SOD, indicates increased hair growth in MPB. Among other beneficial things, SODs appear to help spare growth-stimulating nitric oxide, reduce damaging inflammation, and help reverse fibrosis (follicular scarring). There are a few patents for SODs as hair growth stimulators and even one for an SOD inhibitor that blocks hair growth by increasing superoxide."


Om DHT tegen te gaan is het niet noodzakelijk van Finasteride te nemen. Azelaic Acid en Spironolactone die je op je scalp moet doen doen dit ook en hebben geen neveneffecten:

"Azelaic acid in Xandrox will inhibit virtually all synthesis of DHT in the scalp at the follicle level. It does this by inhibiting the synthesis of testosterone into DHT by both type 1 and type 2, 5-alpha reductase enzyme. On the other hand, Spironolactone blocks the follicular androgen receptor sites, inhibits the conversion of steroids to DHT, and converts testosterone into estrogen in the scalp. Azelaic acid cannot protect against circulating DHT. Topical spironolactone fulfills that need, but rather than reducing circulating DHT like finasteride does, it takes the place of it by blocking circulating DHT from the follicular receptor sites."

De beste shampoos die je kan gebruiken zijn Nizoral 2% shampoo en Nano shampoo van Dr. Proctor, je kan ook een "light" versie kopen van Nano shampoo, die Dr. Proctor's regrowth shampoo heet en goedkoper is bij www.anagen.net en www.lef.org

Je moet minstens 6 maanden wachten voor je resultaten kan verwachten en het beste is van een product 1 jaar te gebruiken om te zien of het echt werkt bij jou. Je moet ook realistische verwachtingen hebben, dun haar kan zogezegd "gemakkelijk" terug dikker worden maar plaatsen die al langer dan 5 jaar kaal zijn daar is het heel moeilijk om nieuw haar te laten groeien. Je moet de behandeling wel blijven volhouden want als je stopt ben je in 4 maanden al de resultaten ervan kwijt.

Ik denk dat dit de beste producten zijn:

- Nizoral 2% shampoo

- Nano shampoo, Proxiphen-N en Proxiphen zijn van Dr. Proctor (www.drproctor.com)

- 5% Xandrox of 12,5% Xandrox voor de recalcitrante plaatsen zoals de slapen en 5% Spironolactone van Dr. Lee(www.minoxidil.com)

- eventueel Folligen of Tricomin als bijkomende behandeling maar op zichzelf alleen zullen die niet veel uithalen

Hier is nog een studie van Nizoral shampoo:

Nizoral 1% Study Shows Benefits for Androgenetic Alopecia

March 04, 2001 - American Academy of Dermatology Meeting - Washington DC - Scientists working for McNeil, makers of Nizoral anti-dandruff shampoo, presented the findings of a study done on 1% Nizoral shampoo which has good news for hair loss sufferers. It has long been known that 2% prescription Nizoral has beneficial effects on Androgenic Alopecia (MPB). It however has been unclear whether the same benefits can be obtained by using the non-prescription 1% version.
In the study presented (see below), one hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, were using, in a double-blind fashion, either a 1% Nizoral shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo, 2-3 times a week for 6 months.

Analysis of the different parameters set up in the study shows that the hair diameter gradually increased with Nizoral use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter showed a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate was reduced with Nizoral (-6.54%) while it increased with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period was reduced by 16.46% with Nizoral and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time.

The results are similar to a previous study done on 2% prescription strength Nizoral where it was shown that use of 2% Nizoral yielded a 7% average increase in hair shaft diameter similar to what was achieved by the control group using 2% Minoxidil and a non-medicated shampoo.

So for any hair loss sufferer, this research clearly indicates that using 1% or 2% Nizoral 2-3 times per week, will have positive effects on hair growth as well as controlling dandruff. It is still unclear at this time whether it's the anti-fungal properties or the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole (active ingredient in Nizoral) thats responsible for the hair thickening effects, however because of the decrease in sebum rates as well, it is the authors opinion that the results are due to the anti-androgenic properties of Ketokonazole.




Nizoral 1% Study
The effects of chronic use of 1% ketoconazole or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo on the general health of hair and scalp.


Hundred male volunteers with mild to moderate dandruff and somewhat oily scalp, have used, in a double-blind fashion, a 1% ketoconazole shampoo or a 1% zinc pyrithione shampoo. The test shampoos were applied 2 to 3 times weekly for a total period of 6 months. Several parameters that affect the general health of hair and scalp were assessed at start, and after 1, 3 and 6 months. These parameters included the percent of hairs in anagen phase, the diameter of the hairs, sebum excretion rate at the hairline, and the number of hairs shed in the 24-hour period prior to each assessment. At the end of the study, the participants were asked to complete a questionnaire regarding the cosmetic acceptability of the test shampoos.

Forty-four ketoconazole users and forty-three zinc pyrithione users completed the 6 month study period. Analysis of the different parameters shows that the hair diameter gradually increases with chronic ketoconazole use (+8.46%) over a 6 month period, whereas the diameter shows a trend to decrease with zinc pyrithione use over the same period (-2.28%). The sebum excretion rate is reduced with ketoconazole (-6.54%) while it increases with zinc pyrithione (+8.2%) over the same period of time. The number of hair shed over a 24-hour period is reduced by 16.46% with ketoconazole and 6.02% with zinc pyrithione after 6 months. Finally, the percentage hairs in anagen phase increased by 6.4% and 8.4% respectively during the study time. Except for the percentage of hairs in anagen, which showed no difference between the two groups, all other parameters were significantly different in favor of the ketoconazole shampoo.

Both shampoos have been shown to be good anti-dandruff ingredients. Assessment of parameters than can affect the health of hair and scalp, suggests that both ingredients show distinct differences in the way they affect the scalp; indicating that ketoconazole increases hair diameter and reduces scalp oil, whereas zinc pyrithione seems to yield opposite effects. This suggests that, besides their effect on the lipophilic yeast Malassezia spp, ketoconazole and zinc pyrithione act though quite different mechanisms. An overall analysis of hair diameter changes as a function of changes in sebum excretion rate suggests that a reduction in scalp oiliness seems to result in an increased hair diameter. This suggests that, in people with oily hair, regular use of ketoconazole shampoo may result in overall hair fullness.
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Oud 11 augustus 2002, 20:39   #2
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Ik wou nog even iets toevoegen aan mijn laatste post.
Het haar op je hoofd valt niet echt uit maar miniaturiseert:

"it appears that male hormones--especially DHT--trigger an autoimmune response in pattern loss, initiating an attack on the hair follicle that can be observed microscopically. This results in destructive inflammation that gradually destroys the follicle's ability to produce terminal hair. The reason for this could be that androgens somehow alter the follicle, causing it to be labeled as a foreign body. A possibly related factor is that elevated androgens also trigger increased sebum (oil) production, which can favor an excessive microbial and parasitic population, also leading to inflammation. In any case, hair progressively miniaturizes under the withering autoimmune attack, so that with each successive growth cycle it gets shorter and thinner until it finally turns into tiny unpigmented vellus hair (peach fuzz)."
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Oud 7 oktober 2002, 22:45   #3
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Hallo, Jack

Klinkt erg interessant allemaal en het is misschien net wat ik nodig heb, bedankt voor de informatie.

Het grappige (of ook niet) is dat ik al jaren lang shampoo gebruik met zinc pyrithion er in, ZP 11 van Revlon. Komt dus niet zo best uit deze test zo te lezen.

Ik ben een beetje nieuw in dit gebeuren allemaal, maar ik neem aan dat je deze produkten gewoon bij de drogist of apotheek kunt halen?

Alvast bedankt, michel
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Oud 8 oktober 2002, 10:06   #4
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Hey Jack,

wilde graag weten of die nizoral shampoo vergelijkbaar is met de rooscure shampoo die hier nogal vaak genoemd word.

En die Xandrox en nizoral of nano, is dat allemaal in Nederland verkrijgbaar, of moet dat in het buitenland besteld worden?

Gebruik je dit zelf allemaal, zoja, dan zou ik graag de resultaten van je willen horen. En als je ze hebt de prijzen..

grtn
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de ketoconazol is de werkzame stof ..rooskuurbevat 1%keto..dus zou net zo goed moeten werken!


Ketoconazol is overigens een bewezen DHT remmer (eigelijk een inhibitor van testosteron biosynthese)..
echter bij oraal gebruik (niet doen is toxisch voor je lever.. het is een middel tegen schimmel dus tast ook je eigen cellen aan )

ik denk overigens dat de werking van keto vooral onstekkingsremmend is..
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Is het mogelijk dat je van Rooscure shampoo in een soort shedding fase terecht komt, gebruikt nu nl ongeveer 1.5 maand deze shampoo, en voor deze tijd had ik een matige haaruitval. Momenteel is het verergert. Of kan het ook komen van het seizoen waar we momenteel in zitten.
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Hoi Michel73 en Rick,

die Nizoral 2% shampoo kan je hier in België zo bij de apotheker krijgen. Ik heb eventjes snel een search gedaan naar Rooscure en daar zit 1% Ketoconazole in, dat is het actieve bestanddeel van Nizoral shampoo, dus die Rooscure shampoo is even goed als Nizoral.
Gebruik de shampoo zo'n 2-3 keer per week en laat hem minstens 5 minuten inwerken.

Rooscure of Nizoral shampoo zou je dus zo moeten kunnen krijgen in Nederland.

Nano shampoo en Xandrox kun je alleen krijgen via het internet.
Xandrox kan je bestellen bij www.minoxidil.com.
Nano shampoo kan je bestellen bij www.drproctor.com, de producten van Dr. Proctor zijn vrij duur en je kan een "light" versie van ze kopen bij www.lef.org.

Ik ben zelf al 4 maanden bezig met 2% Nizoral shampoo, Dr. Proctor's hair regrowth shampoo en 5% Xandrox.
Ik zie nog geen resultaat maar het is daar ook nog veel te vroeg voor.
Je moet minstens 6 maanden wachten vooraleer je een zichtbaar resultaat kan zien en je zou een product toch een vol jaar moeten gebruiken vooraleer je erover kan oordelen.
Dit komt door de telogene fase (rustfase) van de haren, die duurt ongeveer drie maanden, dan vallen die haren uit en moeten ze door de gebruikte producten dikker teruggroeien.
Je moet zo toch een aantal cycli doorgaan om een merkbaar resultaat te bekomen.
Zelfs als je precies geen verbetering waarneemt kan het zijn dat je behandeling de haaruitval toch minstens vertraagt.
Als je stopt met de behandeling gaan de haren terug naar de staat waarin ze waren voor de behandeling in zo'n 4 maanden tijd.
Van het gebruik van Minoxidil 2 keer per dag krijg je het maximum resultaat na zo'n 2-3 jaar tijd. Dan volstaat het om het 1 keer per dag te gebruiken.
De beste manier om haar dikker te laten teruggroeien is de combinatie van een groeistimulator, Minoxidil is de beste en een produkt om DHT tegen te gaan zoals, Ketoconazole in Nizoral en Rooscure shampoo en Spironolactone en Azelaic Acid.
Azelaic Acid en Minoxidil zitten alletwee in Xandrox.

Groetjes,
JTR

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Jack bedankt!

Ben je ook bekend met het onderstaande verhaal?

Xandrox is one of the more popular topical treatment for hair loss forumulated by Dr. Lee. Xandorx is basically 5% (or higher) topical minoxidil with azelaic acid. If you pay attention, your Xandrox contains more than just minoxidil and azelaic acid, there is also Betamethasone.

Betamethasone is a kind of corticosteroid. This is mainly used to reduce scalp inflammatory conditions, such as itch and flakes etc. For those who have been using Rogaine or topical minoxidil, scalp irritations or scalp inflammation is a very common side effects. And yes, you can lose hair as a result of scalp irritations.

Now recently, Dr. Pickart discussed Betamethasone in detail and explained why it should not be included in hair products.

Dr. Pickart is the inventor and the world's leading authority in copper peptides technology - one of the greatest discovery for skin repair and tissue regeneration.

Here's according to Dr. Pickart :

Quote:
"Xandrox consists of 5% to 12% Minoxidil, Azelaic Acid and Betamethasone Valerate. The latter is a corticosteroid included to counteract the effect of the Azelaic Acid which often causes skin irritation. Even with the steroid, many people still have severe flaking of their scalps when using Xandrox. Azelaic Acid,
which is similar to retinoic acid, is normally used to treat acne and does have hair promoting properties in combination with minoxidil. Success rates on hair growth up to 70% are claimed but there are no independent controlled studies on Lee's products.

The real problem with this therapy is what happens with long term use? The long term use of corticosteroids on skin inflammations is usually disastrous with severe skin thinning and chronic skin damage because the corticosteroids inhibit the natural skin repair processes. Systemic absorption of topical corticosteroids has
produced hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis suppression, manifestations of Cushing's syndrome, hyperglycemia, and glucosuria in some people.

Persons using Xandrox should be evaluated periodically for evidence of HPA axis suppression by using the urinary free cortisol and ACTH stimulation tests.

Some Xandrox users have said that the amount of corticosteroid is too low to matter. But this is not true. Corticosteroids exert their typical actions at 10exp(-11) molar concentration. For a corticosteroid of 300 molecular weight, this amounts to a concentration of 3 X 10exp(-9) grams per liter or about 210 nanograms for the entire body. If you put 1 milliliter of a solution containing only 0.1% corticosteroid, the corticosteroid you are putting on your scalp is 1 milligram,
or 1,000 micrograms or 1 million nanograms. Since corticosteroids easily cross the skin barrier and enter the body and you are putting 1 million nanograms of your scalp daily, and only 210 nanograms are needed to activate corticosteroid effects, it is inevitable that after long term use of the Xandrox, you will have put sufficient corticosteroids into your body to cause serious damage.

Furthermore, long term corticosteroid use can promote diabetic conditions, thymus involution (accelerates aging), immune suppression, muscle wasting, the spread of cancers, bone damage, and cataracts.

It is estimated that 5,000 hip replacements yearly in Canada are due to overuse of corticosteroids.

So what happens if you grow beautiful hair with corticosteroids? As you crawl into bed to show off your gorgeous physical attributes to your loved-one or intended-to-be loved-one, you may have trouble seeing through the developing cataracts on your eyes and the insulin injections to control the corticosteroid-induced diabetes will have left needle tracks over your arms. The muscle wasting and fragile bones will slow your movements and anything more physical could put you at risk for broken bones. Bed partners are only impressed by hair in combination with a beautiful, healthy body.

Why is nothing done about excessive and dangerous corticosteroid use? The situation is very similar to that of cigarettes and pesticides 30 years ago. Honest scientists and physicians expressed their alarm at future dangers, but social inaction and powerful business interests blocked action for many years."

End Quote


For those who are on Xandrox or would like to try Xandrox but are concerned, there are a couple of options. The easiest is to simply leave Betamethasone out of Xandrox. You can request that when you place your order with Dr. Lee. In fact, they have been filling non Betamethasone Xandrox ever since the first day they introduced Xandrox. So just let Dr. Lee's office know and they will accomodate your request. Since we all have different tolerance levels for topical minoxidil, you may not necessarily experience scalp irritations using Xandrox without Betamethasone. However, in the event that you develop scalp irritations because of Xandrox, you may either scale down the amount that you use every day or add Folligen to counteract the side effects. For more info about Folligen, please see Cyber Conference on Copper Peptides Technology.


For discussion on Xandrox, please go to
Xandrox - male discussion group
Xandrox - female discussion group


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Tis maar ff dat je het weet.

Oja het wat betaal je daar nu voor per maand?
En is je haartuitval al wel minder geworden?

grtn
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Rick,

ik gebruik Xandrox zonder Betamethasone Valerate. Wanneer je een bestelling plaatst kan je kiezen of je dat erbij wil of niet.

Dr. Lee, de uitvinder van Xandrox heeft op zijn website www.minoxidil.com gerepliceerd op het artikel dat jij hier hebt gepost:

Let me assure you that although there are risks associated with any medicatons, the 'risks' associated with using Xandrox are negligible. The issue of incorporating betamethasone in the formulation was very thoroughly researched and I knew that it could or would be used as an issue of controversy by those who do not fully understand how it works, why it works, and where it works. That's why 5% Xandrox solutions have always been available both with and without betamethasone valerate.

The original text from the 'Comments,' below, was posted at www.skinbiology.com, but I assume it was not written by Dr. Loren Pickart. He's a respected and intelligent dermatologist and would have taken more care in presenting the facts. Even my name was incorrectly entered.

Here's a copy of a reply I have written to one of my patients. I hope it allays any misgivings you may have.

Comment:
Xandrox:

Avoid this product. Xandrox is a new product from Dr. Robert Lee (picture to the left) who sells various mixtures of drugs for hair growth and does rapid Internet medical consultations from his website at www.minoxidil.com/. Xandrox consists of 5% to 12% (sic) Minoxidil, Azelaic Acid and Betamethasone Valerate.

Dr. Lee's reply:

The Xandrox 12.5% does not contain any betamethasone valerate because the lotion isn't irritating. The Xandrox 5% has always been available both with and without the betamethasone.



Comment:

The latter is a corticosteroid included to counteract the effect of the Azelaic Acid which often causes skin irritation. Even with the steroid, many people still have severe flaking of their scalps when using Xandrox. Azelaic Acid, which is similar to retinoic acid...



Dr. Lee's reply:

Azelaic acid is not chemically or phramacologically related to retinoic acid (tretinoin), which acts as a chemical peel. Azelaic acid is a naturally occurring substance that everyone ingests as a part of whole grain foods, is normally used to treat acne and does have hair promoting properties in combination with minoxidil.



Comment:

Success rates on hair growth up to 70% are claimed but there are no independent controlled studies on Lee's products. The real problem with this therapy is what happens with long term use? The long term use of corticosteroids on skin inflammations is usually disastrous with severe skin thinning and chronic skin damage because the corticosteroids inhibit the natural skin repair processes. Systemic absorption of topical corticosteroids has produced hypothalamic-pituitary-adrenal (HPA) axis suppression, manifestations of Cushing's syndrome, hyperglycemia, and glucosuria in some people.

Dr. Lee's reply:

Absolutely true. But the key is proper dosage. One aspirin a day could be helpful. Many per day can cause stomach ulcers. Ingesting an entire bottle of aspirin can result in death.

Comment:

Persons using Xandrox should be evaluated periodically for evidence of HPA axis suppression by using the urinary free cortisol and ACTH stimulation tests. Some Xandrox users have said that the amount of corticosteroid is too low to matter. But this is not true. Corticosteroids exert their typical actions at 10exp(-11) molar concentration.

Dr. Lee's reply:

Where? On what organ? And what corticosteroid is being discussed here?

Every competent physician knows (or should know) that there is a very wide range of actions depending on the specific corticosteroids (of which there are dozens). This kind of blanket statement is unbelievably unscientific and could not have come from the pen (or keyboard) of a Board Certified physician.



Comment:

For a corticosteroid of 300 molecular weight, this amounts to a concentration of 3 X 10exp(-9) grams per liter or about 210 nanograms for the entire body. If you put 1milliliter of a solution containing only 0.1% corticosteroid, the corticosteroid you are putting on your scalp is 1 milligram, or 1,000 micrograms or 1 million nanograms. Since corticosteroids easily cross the skin barrier and enter the body.



Dr. Lee's reply:

Simply not true. On the scalp, the average absorption is 4%. On the forearm the absorption is 1%.

Comment:

… and you are putting 1 million nanograms on your scalp daily, and only 210 nanograms are needed to activate corticosteroid effects, it is inevitable that after long term use of the Xandrox, you will have put sufficient corticosteroids into your body to cause serious damage.



Dr. Lee's reply:

That's assuming the medication isn't constantly being metabolized and excreted, which, of course, it is.

Comment:

Furthermore, long term corticosteroid use can promote diabetic conditions, thymus involution (accelerates aging), immune suppression, muscle wasting, the spread of cancers, bone damage, and cataracts. It is estimated that 5,000 hip replacements yearly in Canada are due to overuse of corticosteroids.



Dr. Lee's reply:

The safety margin in regards to systemic effects is about a factor of half-million.



Comment:

So what happens if you grow beautiful hair with corticosteroids? As you crawl into bed to show off your gorgeous physical attributes to your loved-one or intended-to-be loved-one, you may have trouble seeing through the developing cataracts on your eyes and the insulin injections to control the corticosteroid-induced diabetes will have left needle tracks over your arms. The muscle wasting and fragile bones will slow your movements and anything more physical could put you at risk for broken bones. Bed partners are only impressed by hair in combination with a beautiful, healthy body.

Why is nothing done about excessive and dangerous corticosteroid use? The situation is very similar to that of cigarettes and pesticides 30 years ago. Honest scientists and physicians expressed their alarm at future dangers, but social inaction and powerful business interests blocked action for many years.



Dr. Lee's reply:

Consider the fact that 1% hydrocortisone (40 times the concentration of the 0.025% betamethasone found in 5% Xandrox solutions) has been available for decades over the counter in the U.S., with higher concentrations available elsewhere, and there have been no reported cases of the kinds of side effects listed above.

If any patient has medical proof substantiated by a Board Certified Endocrinologist that the use of Xandrox caused any problems such as those listed above, I'll pay all the medical bills.



Best Regards,

Richard Lee, M.D.

1 maand 5% Xandrox daytime solutions kost ongeveer 35 Euro.
Mijn slapen zijn al een paar jaar kaal en daar verwacht ik ook geen hergroei van nieuw haar. Mijn haarlijn is al een paar jaar traag dunner aan het worden. Als ik het haar vanvoor op mijn hoofd terug dikker kan krijgen zal ik zeer tevreden zijn.
Ik heb niet echt last van overmatige haaruitval, het haar vanvoor op mijn hoofd is gewoon door de jaren heen dunner en dunner geworden.
Dr. Lee en Dr. Proctor zeggen alletwee dat de moelijkste plaats om haar terug te groeien de slapen en de haarlijn zijn. Hoe meer je naar achter gaat op het hoofd hoe gemakkelijker.
Dit is een algemene waarneming, en kan natuurlijk bij ieder individu verschillen.
Ze zeggen ook dat haar dat dun is maar toch nog redelijk zichtbaar is vrij goed terug dikker kan gemaakt worden door behandeling. Als je ergens een volledig kale plek hebt voor meer dan 5 jaar dan is het naar het schijnt bijna onmogelijk om daar terug haar te doen groeien.


Groeten,
JTR
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oral minoxidil

My friend, Some people have used oral minoxidil (Loniten) for treating their hair loss, but this is a much more risky treatment than topical application. Use at your own risk. Side effects of excessive minoxidil intake (either orally or topically) include racing heart and salt and water retention. Oral minoxidil in any significant quantity ordinarily has to be taken with a loop diuretic and is best done under a physician's care.
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