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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 10:40   #301
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What newer clinics? What young clinics? Gho said in the interview that he is sharing his licence aso with dermatologists and provide them with all the need instruments storage solution etc. But thats the east, they are more willing to take a new step while we in the west always stay with the same stuff till we are tired of it.
I would expect some Thai clinics and maybe Turkish ones to be flexible (and bold) enough to try.

I don't have much faith in older, established clinics.

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You wonder why no clinic is jumping on it? Well i wonder myself, they dont even take a close look at HST all they do is the ame routine "Find all excuses why this doesnt work or cannot work". And they tell the same stories about hair splitting, we hear all the time until its getting boring

This guy here says it drastic and clearly because even he is now pretty much pissed about the same old stupid stuff

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/bo...casc-DESC.html

And he is damn right, i even forget to mention colin jahoda etc shame on me but this doesnt matter anyway because clinics should get ready for a big gap in patients the next months.

Its sad, they rather accept to go bancrupt and stick with their old stuff over investing 50.000 Euro and some time and stay on the market in the future.

Everyone here should ask himself " What happens to companies in general who deny or just ignore technological advancements and only listening to guys like SpanishDude?"

Correct those companies will pretty much leave the pool of companies at one point in time
I noticed that there is a huge hurdle for clinics to switch from FUT to FUE. In The Netherlands still we estimate that 75% of new clients is talked into having an oldfashioned FUT. Let them take that hurdle first!

I must admit that much of the retoric is lost on me, but I never got the impression that Spanish Dude was a FUT advocate. He is a Gho sceptic.
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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 11:48   #302
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God beware of a lot of turkish clinics because they use micro motor extraction.....

Here is something, the older clinics also here should read very carefully

"If you clinics like Pro Hair would offer HST (with proof that you can do it after buying the licence) i would gladly go there and even pay 2000 Euros more then their rates for FUE right now and i wouldtn even talk about sour grapes in the past"

And yes a lot of people think exactly the same but strangely those clinics just ignore such statements. So Pro Hair clinic i would make an appointment if you could offer HST without thinking twice and many would.

Nope you didnt lost anything in translation, SD is nor a Gho sceptic, a Gho sceptic is someone like you, a person i can totally live with because you are interested only in hair and not like SpanishDude in everything else surrounding Gho. He is focussed on advertisement, ghos bald spot or thinned out hair and gloves from the HSI staff etc, all useless things which not contributes to a full head of hair at all. And stuff like that pisses me off because its just trolling.

You can believe me if everyone here would get a full head of hair by Gho and we would show our pictures with donor regeneration he would call us all shills, believe me.

My personal faith lies in some bright minds who are willing to say "Ok we cant and shouldnt offer our patients the old stuff, lets give it a fair try" if this happens, its just a matter of months before such things as HST can become ready to the mass market.

And as a result right now, i see old FUT clinics die and vanish, there are only a few specialised ones left, but even they will vanish and then i aske all the patients who are so anti gho right now, "What will you do when only one clinic HSI is offering a viable solution and the others are pretty much gone?"

A hair restoration is nothing for the NOW, a hair restoration is something connected to your future, and you can only prepare for the future if you choose the right things now and Anthonie i think you already saw that especially FUT patients are very very hostile towards Gho supporters.

Thats something psychological because deep down they know "Fuck why couldnt i have waited and tried HST silently without telling everyone" but instead of this they now have two areas to work, the bald areas and the scar which will bite their ass in a few years.

I have spoken to around 7 FUT patients in the past ( I KNOW SPANISHDUDE 7 guys are not representative i know this) and they had FUT done over an arrange of 6 years till 2010. Almost everyone of them regretted this because they said

"After their FUT they began to do research on the internet about hair restoration and they stumbled across different stuff (GHo was included as well) and at that point they realised what they actually did and it was ground shattering for them.

And when i asked them " Why would you punch people on forums who support other treatments over FUT" they only said "Because its hard to admit mistakes and when you can be anonymus you can punch people without taking one back"

And before it sounds like an advertisement from myself, they said "Even with Gho working its to expensive right now for them and they would do this, when they could turn back the time before FUT"

Also they all hope for such a thing like HST becoming the first choice in hair restoration. So i dont know why people call me shill, i only tell the hard truth without exaggerating oder downplaying anything its just the brutal truth; Gho is expensive even if it works so we hve to pray for other clinics get into it, hands down.

I switched my opinions on Gho numerous times, everyone can easily read that everywhere and i ADMIT this. I changed my opinion for this hopefully final time not because of IronMan , i did it because i emailed a lot of researchers did phone calls and asked biology students etc.

One of my first question was " Can hair follicles really regenerate themselves" and well a lot of them laughed about this question and asked me " Have you ever plucked your eyebrows, thats your answer"

And yes hair follicles will always regenerate themselves after damage, thats why waxng etc just doenst work (this industrie is really a lieing one).

According to them there are only drastic measures which can kill a follicle :

1) Burn the skin through all layers of tissue
2) Acid the follicle
3) Amputate the whole follicle ( FUT and FUE where you extract everything)

But then you have to really really try hard to get rid of it. Also they say it would be much more realistic to find a way to clone hairs, rather then get rid of unwanted body hair forever
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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 12:07   #303
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Dr. Elaine Fuchs over stamcellen (video)

Watch this video and learn from it

http://www.ascb.org/ibioseminars/inc...me=fuchs&num=2

Btw credits go to my number one enemy for digging this up (nope not SpanishDude)
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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 12:09   #304
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Btw watch this video and things will be pretty obvious what is possible and whats not

http://www.ascb.org/ibioseminars/inc...me=fuchs&num=2

i started a new thred for people to watch this video as well.

So to make a long story short, when i say stuff i TRY to back those up with proof even if i respond agressive or hostile, but i cant stand people pushing down truth with lame excuses
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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 12:34   #305
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Btw watch this video and things will be pretty obvious what is possible and whats not

http://www.ascb.org/ibioseminars/inc...me=fuchs&num=2
In 2009, Fuchs received the National Medal of Science from US President Obama.

Source: http://jcb.rupress.org/content/187/7/938.full

And Gho? No Novel Price? No "Sir" title? Damn, he isn't British ...


Anyway, Spanish Dud got this prize from Gho …

As you guys can see, this is a typical Spanish Dud BEFORE photo - there is not 1 single shaved hair on his slick bald scalp!
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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 12:41   #306
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Fake Foto Elaine FUchs is a liar and i can proove this. She is bought by Gho and his shills.

Good Lord Pretending to be SpanishDude is totally insane and i can do this i feel stupid by just writing such stuff down.

So in conclusion we have :

Science, docs, researchers etc on the pro HM side and we have

SpanishDude and sour grape clinics on the contra HM side.....

Hmm time to reevaluate i guess
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Fake Foto Elaine FUchs is a liar and i can proove this. She is bought by Gho and his shills.
No, she is bought by Obama Bin Laden!
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Oud 2 augustus 2011, 17:10   #308
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(skipping garbage posts...).
Gho's fake advertisment is still online.
I think Gho will receive the Prize for "worst fakery of the year", mwhahaha.

@Anthonie, thanks for improving the dutch translation in the "Roloff thread".
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Stevie.Dee posts a link to a video and not even able to explain what the video says. He posts the link so that others explain to him what it says
Email Fuchs, tell her Aderans-Japan have money for her.
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(skipping garbage posts...).

I think Gho will receive the Prize ...
Thanks for taking MY posts serious.
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Do you have such a low attention span to follow this video and understand it? Or do you wanna troll for the purpose of being funny.

I can explain the video but this video just doesnt need an explanaition because the stupidest idiot from spain should understand it.

Oh but i know you want to have everything in short form to moan about it, YAWN not from me, watch the video yourself
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Worst fakery of the year? Well this price will definitely go to the german forum Admin, thats for sure
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I don't want to install Quicktime. put it in Youtube and I might watch it.

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Do you have such a low attention span to follow this video and understand it? Or do you wanna troll for the purpose of being funny.

I can explain the video but this video just doesnt need an explanaition because the stupidest idiot from spain should understand it.

Oh but i know you want to have everything in short form to moan about it, YAWN not from me, watch the video yourself
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Your bad its not my problem
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Oud 3 augustus 2011, 10:33   #315
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Ik kan de video helaas ook niet bekijken, maar als ie inderdaad nog op Youtube of zo verschijnt, dan houd ik me aanbevolen!
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