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24 september 2009, 23:27 | #1 |
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[kliniek] Hattingen Hair Switzerland and Germany
Hi guys,
i am Markus from germany and i represent the clinic "Hattingen Hair Transplant" from Switzerland and Germany in the european boards. Sorry, cause my very bad dutch language i will post in english. Among other well known clinics in Europe like Bisanga, Devroye, Feriduni, Heitmann or Mwamba, we have an unknown clinic called Hattingen Hair Transplantation located in Switzerland and Germany. They are specialised in Follicular Unit Transplantation. The leading docs are Dr. Laura Muresanu, Dr. Sever Muresanu and Prof. Dr. Dr. Voy. In the german board "alopezie.de" u will find many examples of their work. Some patients are showing their results and documenting their progress very well. The german law does not allow showing "Before and after pics" of any cosmetic surgery on the part of a clinic or doc. Laatst gewijzigd door AnthonieH; 25 september 2009 om 08:19 Reden: reclame verwijderd uit bericht |
25 september 2009, 08:18 | #2 |
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NW5a,
Advertising is not allowed on Haarweb, so I changed some parts of your message. I also would like to ask you to adapt your signature. No links to a clinic or mentioning the name are allowed. It is possible to have your name there as part of a payed advertisement. That's the way other representatives of clinics here work. You can contact the webmaster (or me) for more info. We are a forum where fellow sufferers offer support (and knowledge) to others. That said, I welcome discussions about clinics. So I will mention the clinic myself Hattingen Hair. And give an example of their work on youtube. As far as I can tell it is a clinic specialised in FUT. FUE is not mentioned. It does mention the 'oldfashioned micro graft methode'. But that can't be the same as FUE because of the disadvantage mentioned: die angeblich unzureichende Kopfhautdurchblutung, die eine große Zahl an Transplantaten nicht ernähren könnte ... a graft transplanted during a FUE procedure is nothing bigger then a graft transplanted during a FUT procedure. My big question therefor is: why not mention FUE anywhere?
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25 september 2009, 09:47 | #3 |
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Hi Antonie,
thx for your introduction so far. Hattingen Hair Transplant is specialised in ultra refined Follicular Unit Transplantation. We are convinced about this technique and we are able to do megasession up to 5000 grafts. We do not use hairtransplant methods like Mini/Micro Grafts or Punches. You will find some results on youtube or in the german board. Many pleased patients showed their progress and result their. Fue is in the beginning and we doing only very small sessions on scars or to improve the density in very small areas. Thx NW5a |
25 september 2009, 09:52 | #4 |
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Jo NW5a haha verpiss dich du Dorftrottel --------------------------------------------------------- Jo some real "hairfever" haha only you give me fever!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jygycMx9mQU Overigens ben ik ook niet gebanned op alopezie!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t8vRxGfdpk&feature=fvw Jojo denk aan "haar" en dan is dit voor mij echt het mooiste lied van ELVIS voor mij nog altijd the real KING!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1t8vRxGfdpk&feature=fvw http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TofEkPSlbRI Laatst gewijzigd door hairobservator; 28 september 2009 om 07:27 Reden: THE REAL HAIRFEVER |
25 september 2009, 15:18 | #5 |
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Mr Bolk,
that´s the reason, why u was banned in the german board. All over the world there are easy rulez in communication, which you have not understand. Greetings, dont smoke too much NW5a |
25 september 2009, 17:40 | #6 |
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25 september 2009, 21:54 | #7 |
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We are not waiting for WW III to start...
Well, curious to find out the results of this clinic. Where in Germany exactly NW5a??
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26 september 2009, 11:32 | #8 | |
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We are all european people. That´s it. U will find some results on youtube or in the german board alopezie.de in the section "Haartansplantation". Thx |
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26 september 2009, 13:46 | #9 |
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ultimo 2005 FUT bij TH (1060 grafts) ultimo 2022 FUE bij Esteworld (2900 grafts) vanaf 1-3-2006 aan de fina maar eind 2016 gestopt WK-Poulkampioen 2018 |
27 september 2009, 23:18 | #10 | |
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You will my story in my blog on htn http://www.hairtransplantnetwork.com....asp?WebID=371 |
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28 september 2009, 13:34 | #11 |
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verry nice results...
i take a look at your pictures...
verry good results... how mutch of your medicine do you use ? 2x a day flutamide 2% ? no sides ?
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REGIME: topical : - minox 5% kirkland (10 en 15% geven geen extra boost) - ru58841 - cb - ahkcu Schampoo's: - redken scalp relief - alpecin c1 cafeine Suplementen: - dutasteride (avodart) 1x dag (01-02-08) - kelp & visolie caps - msm 5000mg / biotine / silicium apparaten: - 1x dag 5min elektrische acupunctuur - 3x week laserhelm 200 diodes 900mw Situatie: - 2725 FUT transplantatie istanbul (25-01-08) - stabiel + hergroei - 3x fitnessen 1x zwemmen en joggen - 2509 FUE prohair (06/07-04-2010) ----------- op 5-08-2009 prp gedaan bij prohair |
28 september 2009, 14:35 | #12 |
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Hi Wesley,
i combine Minox 5% Kirkland with Pantostin/Ell Cranell. In this i put 5mg Finasterid. Every evening i do it on the scalp 3ml. Also Mutli Mineral und Vitamin. OPC, Gluthation, Zink, Selen, Silicea. After my first transplant i used the X5 Hairlaser, which was out-of-order after 1 year. I think the ATP theorie is good. I will use MET: Mikro Electro Therapy which seems very promising, which increase ATP und Protein dramatically. Bye |
28 september 2009, 17:29 | #13 |
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sounds not to heavy regime...
if i get it , you use :
1 bottle kirkland (60ml) + pantostin + 5mg finasteride and apply this mix 3ml every night ? pantostin = http://www.greyhairloss.com/blog/pantostin.html and the x5 hairlaser , till it broke correct ? -------------------------------------------------------------------- workingtime of minoxidil = 12 hours , therefore its recommended to use it 2x a day i dont know this pantostin , but flutamide is far more powerfull i have read that you used flutamide 2% also , why did you quit ? sides ? 5mg in 60ml minoxidil seems to low , is there a reason to keep this so low ? also theres a limit of what the skin absorbes talking about 3 -10 % ? ------------------------------------------------------------------- about lasers , as far as i know its the total laseroutput that is important for bio-stimulation , i have seen studies that show that 250mw is needed (laseroutput) the x5 hairlaser is clearly to weak i used in the beginning also 1,5 years my x5 hairlaser with 0% result... i seems to me that you would make more results if you build a laserhelmet ? also liposomes delivery-system in the new minoxidils should give better delivery deep into the skin and a more longer and constant delivery at the hairfollikels... here you can see how mutch of the minox is deliverd into the skin : http://www.lipoxidil.com/site/derma.php it looks a bit dangerous to use also a dermaroller , its to dangerous or i would have done it this way , dont want any heartproblems , but i do use a minox on base of the liposomes delivery system and it uses minoxidil-sulfate what would be 14x stronger then regular minox --------------------------------------------------------------------- ok back on topic : are you planning an ht on the crown ? your hair looks great but it seems that they didnt inplant on the crown future ht maybe ?
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28 september 2009, 17:58 | #14 |
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Yes, i mixed it 1:1. I know, that 10mg Fin would be better, but i stopped fin cause of sideeffects, so i wanted to start with a minimal fin and that as topical. We will see, perhaps i will start again with the Dermaroller, cause it increased the density in the bridge and crown.
I had a second transplant now with 3200 Grafts for the crown and bridge. It was a big area to recover. I went to Dr. Lars Heitmann again Bye |