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Oud 16 juni 2009, 21:26   #46
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So he becomes a very suf person
I'm afraid so!
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Oud 15 juli 2009, 11:04   #47
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Now it's less than month for the operation. As instructed by Prohairclinic, I have now quit using Rogaine. My scalp is now in much better condition as it was when I was using Rogaine. That's really good, but does anyone know when the hair should start falling after quitting it?
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Oud 15 juli 2009, 11:39   #48
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Now it's less than month for the operation. As instructed by Prohairclinic, I have now quit using Rogaine. My scalp is now in much better condition as it was when I was using Rogaine. That's really good, but does anyone know when the hair should start falling after quitting it?
On their site they advise to stop using minoxidil 2 weeks prior to the procedure. You can safely start with it again after the procedure (about two weeks). One month without minoxidil should not have all that much effect on your hair. Besides, it's for a good cause
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Oud 27 juli 2009, 09:45   #49
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Last week I have been worried about shock loss in both recipient and donor area. I have read that it is important to use minoxidil just right after the surgery and finasteride should be helpful too. I'm not using finasteride, so this makes me really worried...

Is this shock loss how common, has most of the people faced this after the hair transplant?

After quick search, I found this web page regarding the shock loss:
http://hairloss.iahrs.org/hair-trans...-loss/#more-43

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Oud 27 juli 2009, 15:42   #50
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Last week I have been worried about shock loss in both recipient and donor area. I have read that it is important to use minoxidil just right after the surgery and finasteride should be helpful too. I'm not using finasteride, so this makes me really worried...

Is this shock loss how common, has most of the people faced this after the hair transplant?

After quick search, I found this web page regarding the shock loss:
http://hairloss.iahrs.org/hair-trans...-loss/#more-43
I did suffer from shock loss a bit, but no so much that other people might have noticed. But keep in mind that I was a category 4 patient as described in the link you gave ... high density implant in an area with a lot of existing hair.

I suppose you run a risk of some shock loss as well, since you still have hair in the area where you want the transplant. But you transplant densitiy will probably be less.

Just make sure your hairs are as strong as can be before the procedure. Perhaps some supplements (MSM?), a daily massage, regular cold showers, .....
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I have read on the instructions that no alcohol should be taken 2-7 days before the operation. Why every clinic has so different instructions? I just would like to have glass of wine with good food... Operation is on next week...
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I have read on the instructions that no alcohol should be taken 2-7 days before the operation. Why every clinic has so different instructions? I just would like to have glass of wine with good food... Operation is on next week...
Clinics want to be safe. Alcohol is metabolised in the liver. Fast in some, slower in others. But what traces would 1 glass of wine leave after 2 days? Nil, I guess.

But don't go out boozing with the boys the night before the procedure
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Oud 13 augustus 2009, 13:23   #53
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Finally it is over and I survived... I had 2000 grafts to the middle and 1900 to the front area. Dr. De Reys told that I have really good density on donor area. There were a lot of grafts with more than 4 hairs, so I'm hoping to get good result. I'm also starting to eat finasteride to get some growth on the crown area.

I have to say that the operation was not easy for me. On both days I did not felt any pain when Dr. De Reys was doing the harvesting or the slits. To be honest I did feel a little bit, but he was giving me more anesthetics and everything was ok so far...

The beginning of the implating was also proceeding well, but on a some point I was feeling a pain only on the right side of the recipient area. Left side was ok in both days and I did not felt anything in there. But on the right side, there were areas where I basically felt every single touch and the pain was just like inserting needles under my scalp. I had more anesthetics many times in there, but it didn't help at all So the anesthetics didn't help but I managed the rest hours, even it was really difficult. I tried to watch movies, but I do not remember much of those because I was consentrating to the pain.

Dr. De Reys told that I was bleeding really much and that might be the reason why the anesthetics didn't work on some part. He suggested me to check my blood levels, because it is not normal that bleeding does not stop. I will go to see my doctor after I have recovered from this, because it's a huge risk if I'm having a big accident and I'm just keep bleeding .

At he moment I have no pain, but I have significant swelling on my face. I can only open my eyes a little bit. Yesterday when I was flying back to home, I was not wearing any protection to my head. I tried to use a cap, but because of the swelling, it looked just like a nutshell on a top of the football

In overall I'm glad I did this and I'm hoping the result will be worth of all what I have experienced.

I will post the pics soon, after I'm able to see something

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Oud 13 augustus 2009, 17:25   #54
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Cool headband...

you had to keep your headband on...
it was to prevent that the swelling goes down in the face
also a ice-bag on the plane would slow down the swelling if you put it on your forehead/face , just dont use it on the ht zone

when i did my ht in istanbul the clinic gave me this to cover it up , when i was walking in the city, and on the plane :
http://static.marktnet.nl/adimg/2009...1-84x100-t.jpg

the swelling was not so heavy like you discribe , but i wear a headband to prevent the swelling to go lower :
http://www.vrocosport.nl/_clientfile.../hoofdband.jpg

also the pressure in the plane can boost the swelling more , i did have this also... but it did not reach the eyes or lower part of the face...
it could also be that i didnt have a icepack in the airport and airplane... and i was affraid of asking one in the airplane, sinds i dont want to take of my cap...

where looking forward to take a look at your pictures (before ht , after ht , and the growing progress in a few months)
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Oud 13 augustus 2009, 18:10   #55
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I just updated fresh pictures:
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Oud 13 augustus 2009, 21:35   #56
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Hi sim0oo, man that's really a bloody mess. Nice hairline though but what's the density per cm2 ?

You have received 'just' 1900 grafts on the front area and I got 1200 grafts but your bald front area was 2,5x as large as mine ?

Thanks

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Oud 13 augustus 2009, 21:42   #57
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Indeed. Reminds of the tv-serie "MASH".
It's looks allright. Seems like they created an conservative hairline.
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Indeed. Reminds of the tv-serie "MASH".
It's looks allright. Seems like they created an conservative hairline.
Hmm, I actually thought it was less conservative as you usually see, Henk.

Normally, you see a a lot "worse".
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I just updated fresh pictures:
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You really did bleed a lot! It shows on your pictures.

Thanks for sharing all this, you have had quite an adventure. I hope your recovery will be quick and that the result will be as good as the pictures seem to promisse. Please keep us updated on your progress!
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what's the density per cm2 ?

You have received 'just' 1900 grafts on the front area and I got 1200 grafts but your bald front area was 2,5x as large as mine ?
If I remember it correctly, they told me the density will be really high, something between 50-60 in the middle and front. And does it then mean the grafts per cm2 or hairs per cm2? I will ask details from Bart if they have any statistics of my operation...

Today I'm looking much better than yesterday. I don't have swelling as much as yesterday and I was able to wash some dried blood away from donor area.

I will keep posting to this forum and I'm trying to update the pictures to my blog daily

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