hair science institute methode werkt?

[enroc]

Wat denken jullie? Ik vond dit net op NU.NL, nog steeds vaag voor mij, want ze hebben het niet over die teruggroei en daar gaat het nou net om toch?



http://www.nu.nl/lifestyle/2312245/h...del-werkt.html

Haargroeimiddel werkt
Uitgegeven: 14 augustus 2010 10:55
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AMSTERDAM - Het Hair Science Institute mag reclame blijven maken voor haarvermeerderingsproducten. Het product werkt namelijk.



Vier in haartransplantatie gespecialiseerde bedrijven hadden een klacht ingediend tegen de reclameuitingen van Hair Science Institute met Gerard Joling als gezicht van het bedrijf. De Reclame Code Commissie noemde de klacht ongegrond, zo werd vrijdag bekendgemaakt.
De bedrijven Transhair, Laser Surgery, Prohairclinic en Hairplus Medical Care klaagden over het feit dat Hair Science Institute aankondigde met wetenschappelijk bewijs te komen over de gebruikte haarvermeerderingsmethode, maar dat vervolgens niet deed.


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Volgens hen is er namelijk geen wetenschappelijk bewijs voor. De Commissie oordeelde echter dat de door HSI gebruikte methode wezenlijk anders is dan de traditionele haarplantatiemethode. In een wetenschappelijk tijdschrift is hierover geschreven met de mededeling dat het haar daadwerkelijk vermeerdert.
© ANP

[Hanna]

Vreemd dat dat gedateerd is met 14 augustus 2010, want 't is al heel oud 'nieuws' en volop besproken op dit forum.

[bass885]

Het nieuws schuilt hem niet in het door Gho gedane onderzoek maar in de uitspraak van de reclame code commissie.Pleit wel voor Gho moet ik zeggen.

[Hairforlife]

Hey,

hmm vindt het een raar beloop...
of het nu werkt of niet wat me het meeste verbaasd:

1. Sinds wanneer is een haartransplantatie een haargroei middel ?
2. Sinds wanneer bepaald de "Reclame" code commissie of iets
wetenschappelijk werkt!?

Denk dat het niet gekker moet worden...alhoewel ik de commentaren hierop op nu.nl wel soms hilarisch vond.

[wesley1982]

is gewoon een meesterscammer...
de wanhopige zielen trappen er natuurlijk direct in... dat zijn ht's mooi gedaan zijn kan wel zijn, maar iedereen gaat er voor die hergroei in donor.... en na vele jaren is het nog steeds een groot ? , over al die jaren zou er normaal wel al serieus wat bewijzen moeten geleverd zijn... waar zitten ze ?
enkel een studie gedaan nu omdat er teveel van overal kritiek begon te komen, ook dat papier van andere ht-klinieken zullen hem naar deze strategie gedwongen hebben

[HairRobinHood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door wesley1982

is gewoon een meesterscammer...

Whom do you mean with "master scammer" ?
Dr. Coen Gho ? The Hair Science Institute in general ?

[norwood2]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door wesley1982

is gewoon een meesterscammer...
de wanhopige zielen trappen er natuurlijk direct in... dat zijn ht's mooi gedaan zijn kan wel zijn, maar iedereen gaat er voor die hergroei in donor....

Volgens mij juist niet, heb ik het idee. Wij hooligans vinden dat wel interessant maar diegene die er geweest zijn volgens mij een stuk minder.

Door die hergroei claim, wekken ze de indruk dat ze de tijd ver vooruit zijn ten opzichte van andere klinieken. Daar komt het volk op af omdat dat dan ook de indruk wekt dat de HT's zelf perfect zullen zijn. Ik bedoel als je je al kan bezig houden met deze hergroei dan moet de rest appeltje/eitje zijn.

Tis een beetje valse concurrentie, mits het niet waar is.

[Falcone]

mocht het waar zijn dan zouden gho patienten met voorsprong de betste resultaten behalen bij de restauratie .... niet dus...

[HairRobinHood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door bverotti

- Fri, 05 December 2008 14:20

Ich versuche dass nochmal zu erklaren.

Beim extrahieren der grafts komt es mal vor dass zum beispiel bei einem 3 haar graft nu 2 wurzel herauskommen. Was passiert aber mit der 3. wurzel der nicht rauskam ? Ist der wurzel verletzt und stirbt, oder wachs der einfach nach ?

Daher haben wir bei einer test in einem sehr kleinem gebiet mit absicht ALLE grafts total transectiert (also absichtlicht falschen winkel benutzt damit die grafts transectieren und ohne haarwurzel rauskommen)

Nach einigen monaten haben wir dass gleiche gebiet uberpruft und festgestelt dass alle transectierten haren wieder nachwachsen, also die wurzel wurde nicht beschadigt.

Obwhol eine transection nicht erwunscht ist aus unser sicht (wir wollen ja schlieslich soviel moglich haren transplantieren) ist es nicht so dass bei transection haarwurzel beschadigt werden.

Dies ist unsere befindung mit unsere version von FUE haartransplantation.

Can somebody help and translate what Prohairclinic (bverotti) is saying?
Thanks in advance!

[AnthonieH]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door HairRobinHood

Can somebody help and translate what Prohairclinic (bverotti) is saying?
Thanks in advance!

It's German, not Dutch

I will try to explain it again.

When extracting grafts sometimes it occurs that from a 3 hair graft only 2 follicles are actually extracted. What happens to the third follicle that is left behind? Is the root damaged and does it die, or does it simply grow back?

To find out we have performed a test in a very small area with the aim of fully transecting (cutting in half) all grafts (we also deliberatly used a wrong angle to transect those grafts and without removing the hair roots).

After a few months we checked that same area and determined that all transected hairs grew back, showing that the roots were not damaged.

Though a transection is unwanted in our opinion (after all we want to transplant as many hairs as possible) fact is that hair roots are not damaged when transected.

This is our finding with our version of FUE hair transplants.

[Spanish Dude]

Hello everyone:
This is my first message here.
Some of you may already know me. I am Spanish Dude from Hairsite.
I don't know dutch language, so I will have to communicate with you in English.
I hope you undersatand me, and excuse me.


As my first intervention in the forum, I want to warn you against forum member "HairRobinHood" who recently registered here.

He is in fact "Iron_Man" at Hairsite. His job is actively, and violently, promote Dr. Gho, and insult anyone who opposes him.

He is also registered in alopezie.de as "nightwalker".

In Xconomy, he has started posting as "HRH", which is an abreviation for HairRobinHood. When he was asked if he was a Hairsite member, he answered "No", which is a lie, because he is "Iron_Man" there.


More info here:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/fo...st_answer.html

[AnthonieH]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Spanish Dude

Hello everyone:
This is my first message here.
Some of you may already know me. I am Spanish Dude from Hairsite.
I don't know dutch language, so I will have to communicate with you in English.
I hope you undersatand me, and excuse me.


As my first intervention in the forum, I want to warn you against forum member "HairRobinHood" who recently registered here.

He is in fact "Iron_Man" at Hairsite. His job is actively, and violently, promote Dr. Gho, and insult anyone who opposes him.

He is also registered in alopezie.de as "nightwalker".

In Xconomy, he has started posting as "HRH", which is an abreviation for HairRobinHood. When he was asked if he was a Hairsite member, he answered "No", which is a lie, because he is "Iron_Man" there.


More info here:
http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/fo...st_answer.html

Bienvenido en este foro, Dude. Thanks for the warning, but it would be rather pointless for anyone to come here to promote Gho in English since we are mainly a Dutch language forum. We have discussed Gho actively over the past 8 years or so and several members have been treated by him (some of those are still active and willing to share experiences).

People can ask questions in English here (y en Español tambien) and probably get a response. So feel free to start a discussion if you like, or ask for info if you stumble onto a discussion that seems of interest to you!

[Spanish Dude]

Hello AnthonieH for your warm welcome.
(Can you speak Spanish?)
Reading this forum is not difficult using Google Translator.
Some Hairsite members do it (e.g., besides me, Iron_Man, and James_Bond (James registered here some weeks ago)), and from time to time, we comment there on information from this forum.

Iron_Man is quite persistant, and is able to gather lots of links, articles, patents, etc, to try to convince people that Gho method works.
As he has registered here at haarweb, most probably he will try to have some influence, even if he has to post in English.
I have no objection, as long as everybody knows that he is not RobinHood, but rather, Iron_Man, and all his past history of rudeness and insults can be found at Hairsite.
On the positive side, Iron_Man provides lots of links to articles, news, patents, so he can also be useful if you separate facts, from fiction and propaganda.

Yes, I am aware that some Gho patients are posting here, for example Roloff. I might ask them some questions when I see a good moment.

greetings.

[AnthonieH]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Spanish Dude

Hello AnthonieH for your warm welcome.
(Can you speak Spanish?)
Reading this forum is not difficult using Google Translator.
Some Hairsite members do it (e.g., besides me, Iron_Man, and James_Bond (James registered here some weeks ago)), and from time to time, we comment there on information from this forum.

Iron_Man is quite persistant, and is able to gather lots of links, articles, patents, etc, to try to convince people that Gho method works.
As he has registered here at haarweb, most probably he will try to have some influence, even if he has to post in English.
I have no objection, as long as everybody knows that he is not RobinHood, but rather, Iron_Man, and all his past history of rudeness and insults can be found at Hairsite.
On the positive side, Iron_Man provides lots of links to articles, news, patents, so he can also be useful if you separate facts, from fiction and propaganda.

Yes, I am aware that some Gho patients are posting here, for example Roloff. I might ask them some questions when I see a good moment.

Thanks, we are warned, but we'll be open to whatever info HairRobinHood (or anyone else) has to offer

As to influence, we are all here to discuss in all openness. If someone is perceived to come here only to ride his hobby-horse, he won't have much influence.

We all seem to agree that the HSI-method is very interesting. Even if it eventualy may prove not to deliver on its promisses, it is still interesting as at least an attempt to try something new, beyond FUE. Most clinics are very conservative in their approach. It will take (or took) them a decade to shift from FUT to FUE (some are still living the FUT-dream) and when they finally do, they just adopt FUE and stop innovating.

And Spanish ... for me it's easy to read, somewhat more difficult to understand when spoken, even more difficult to write and most difficult to speak. But I spend on average 5 weeks each year in Spain, vacaciones, so I am improving year by year

[HairRobinHood]

Oorspronkelijk geplaatst door Spanish Dude

On the positive side, Iron_Man provides lots of links to articles, news, patents, so he can also be useful if you separate facts, from fiction and propaganda.

Oh yeah, and this guy, he calls himself "Spanish Dude from HairSite" (in fact, the REAL troll from HairSite since years), is one of such guys, who blame and bash all these guys, who really try to share and provide informations - not about Dr. Gho only, like this guy for instance:

http://www.baldnessbattlers.com/JBInterviewGho.htm

This guy (James Bond), I'm sure he can tell you some real FACTS and story about this troll called "Spanish Dude" (I assume, you clearly can see all this yourself). And I'm sure, he will confirm all this about I'm talking here. Ask JB next time, in case he visits this board again!

But before I leave this board again, just a short note:

I'm sure you noticed why I posted here the very 1st time - right?
The answer is simple: If somebody calls respected physicians and researchers (not Dr. Gho only) "scammer" or simply blame them wherever they can whitout any proofs, or even bombard them with emails, in fact, all things like this guy "Spanish Dude" is doing (I'm able to prove this) - NO WAY! - and actually, you Admins should know this.

Anyway, THANKS for the translation, but actually I meant a translation from German into Dutch.

I thought all the Dutch people should know, that "donor regrowth" (in general) is possible. And in this case it doesn't matter, in which way.

Because if somebody is claiming everywhere that "max. just 5% is possible" and on the other hand such guys speak loud and clear "everything is regrown in a test procedure" - interesting, isn't it?

Bye!